Keyless pedal steels lets see them

Steve Mueller · Post by **Steve Mueller** » 13 Jan 2022 11:16 am

bOb,
How much does your S10 Sierra weigh?

Steve Mueller · Post by **Steve Mueller** » 13 Jan 2022 11:22 am

Here are my two Williams D12 keyless steels. I've got a Wide Body S12 on order. I've posted these before.

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 13 Jan 2022 3:11 pm

Steve Mueller wrote:bOb,
How much does your S10 Sierra weigh?

I don't really know. It's considerably lighter than either of the other two I pictured. It's a much smaller instrument. I think it's in neighborhood of 45 lbs. in the case, but it's probably a different case from what he uses now.

Ross Shafer · Post by **Ross Shafer** » 14 Jan 2022 3:02 pm

Just weighed a 4 & 5 S10. 26 pounds, 41 in case.
Bobby's is likely a bit heavier since he has a couple more pedals and knees.

Current Sierra guitar weights are somewhat dependent on what wood is chosen by the buyer wood density (therefore weight) can vary a lot even within the same species.

I've even weighed identically made cases that had a 2+ pound difference from each other.

Jeremy Threlfall · Post by **Jeremy Threlfall** » 16 Jan 2022 9:04 am

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Phil Ajjarapu · Post by **Phil Ajjarapu** » 24 Apr 2022 8:45 am

New addition to the family

Mike Vallandigham · Post by **Mike Vallandigham** » 24 Apr 2022 10:09 am

Holy Smokes! Looks at that one!

I've never seen that headstock on an Excel. Figures, every single one is different, new and improved.

Really nice. Enjoy it!

Bobby D. Jones · Post by **Bobby D. Jones** » 26 Apr 2022 8:30 pm

This is a GFI S12 Keyless I got 2-3 years ago. I just got serious with playing it about 2 or 3 months ago. Why get in a hurry, COVID has shut down 2 venues where I was house band steeler.

This guitar has more sustain than any Steel I have ever played. I have a GFI S12 Keyed also, I need to set these guitars side by side and do some serious comparing of them.

I set both guitars up Day Universal myself, But the S12 keyless has an added lever LKL. I put raise 1 to G#-2 to E and lower 6 to F#. for E9th and fold up for Uni B6th playing. (Jury still out on this KL). If I keep it I will have to add it to my S12 keyed guitar also.

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Stu Schulman · Post by **Stu Schulman** » 27 Apr 2022 5:38 am

My Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5

Johnie King · Post by **Johnie King** » 27 Apr 2022 5:52 am

Stu I like your Keyless Desert Rose .
I like the body length which allows the first pedal too start behind the nut like a key model steel.
Plus the 3/4 body with pad would be my choice also.

Stu Schulman · Post by **Stu Schulman** » 27 Apr 2022 10:58 am

Johnie,I absolutely love this little keyless Desert Rose guitar...I didn't want anything more 3 pedals,5 knees I should be able to play anything that I need to.

Bobby D. Jones · Post by **Bobby D. Jones** » 27 Apr 2022 7:12 pm

Stu, That is one neat guitar. I love the 3/4 size body, Played an old MSA S10 for about 18 years. Love that small pad for right wrist anchor point.

Stu Schulman · Post by **Stu Schulman** » 28 Apr 2022 4:45 am

Bobby,The scale is still 24" I only use the pad to push my picks on.

Anthony Campbell · Post by **Anthony Campbell** » 1 May 2022 12:24 pm

Hugo Knef · Post by **Hugo Knef** » 10 May 2022 10:50 am

Need the small footprint as I live on a sailboat.....

Johnie King · Post by **Johnie King** » 17 Feb 2026 7:02 am

K Maul · Post by **K Maul** » 17 Feb 2026 9:08 am

GFI D-10 standard E9&B6
Williams S-10 semi Universal (Now with 5 pedals).

Stew Crookes · Post by **Stew Crookes** » 18 Feb 2026 1:12 am

I love my Excel - it's light, small, sounds great and has all the changes I need

HowardR · Post by **HowardR** » 18 Feb 2026 6:31 am

My Williams D6 3&4......Williams S8 8&5 (added 3 more pedals)

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K Maul · Post by **K Maul** » 18 Feb 2026 6:35 am

D-6….Wow! Now THAT’S a special order!!
On the single eight - that’s five pedals and eight knee levers??

HowardR · Post by **HowardR** » 18 Feb 2026 6:43 am

No Kevin......I originally had 5 pedals when I took this photo......then I added 3 more pedals.......these are both sweet little guitars with Steeltronics Z series pups.....

HowardR · Post by **HowardR** » 18 Feb 2026 6:48 am

Lonestar by Jim Flynn......S6 6&4 (shown before I added 2 more pedals)

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HowardR · Post by **HowardR** » 18 Feb 2026 6:55 am

Lamar S10 5&5 with 3/8" parallel string spacing......I also have a Lamar S7 5&5 if I can locate the photo.....

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Jon Jaffe · Post by **Jon Jaffe** » 18 Feb 2026 2:23 pm

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I was a Kline devotee until my new Sierra arrived in December '24. I still think keyless is the way to go.

David Friedlander · Post by **David Friedlander** » 18 Feb 2026 8:41 pm

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Another Lamar lover here. This thing has been rock solid for 25 years.
You do need a wrench to tune it but changing a string takes 2 minutes

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